From Chinese Prison to Bestselling Author – The Incredible Story of Chancellor K. Jackson / Ep. 4
Hooah, dear pirates, philosophers, heretics, thinkers, and humanists. Welcome aboard the ship of the stoic pirate and on our quest for the treasure of the good life. Today's show is in English because I have a guest from Atlanta, Georgia, from The United States. And my guest lived through something most of us couldn't imagine. You will hear about his story, an amazing story from chancellor Jackson, who's my guest.
The Stoic Pirate:He went as a teacher to China and got arrested, locked up fourteen days in a Chinese jail. Just imagine how you would feel a foreigner, a stranger in a strange land, locked up for fourteen days. Chancellor Jackson went from college athlete to international teacher, then author, coach, and guide for aspiring writers. His story is raw, real, and incredibly inspiring. And today, just his new book came out, The Power of Becoming.
The Stoic Pirate:And in this book, he's sharing lessons that turn adversity into transformation. So stay tuned for this conversation with a great guy with chancellor Jackson. Hi, chancellor. It's great. Great having you on the ship of the stoic pirate.
The Stoic Pirate:You're in Florida right now. I'm in Switzerland. This is so great. This is amazing that we have this technology that we can talk together. And it's great having you.
The Stoic Pirate:It's great having you. And so my first question is actually, your name. When I saw Chancellor Jackson, sort of what a cool name. You know, it's like chancellor, like, emperor or colonel or king or something. What what's the story behind your your your name?
Chancellor Jackson:Ironically, my mama got chancellor from a soap opera back in the days, the young and the restless. It was a character on there named chancellor, and she just heard it, and she's like, Oh yeah, I like that name. That's where the name came from, ironically, but Okay,
The Stoic Pirate:and so you are sim Are you similar to the character of the show?
Chancellor Jackson:No, not so Actually, Chancellor in the show is a woman. Oh, So it's like exactly. So yeah. It's just she just loved the name, though. So she
The Stoic Pirate:Okay. So there's no big story behind. It's like she just looked like loved the name, and so she
Chancellor Jackson:gave me guess she was watching the show. Was a family show. She thought a character where you haven't said chancellor. Chancellor. He's
The Stoic Pirate:not Okay. Cool. So you grew up in Smyrna. Smyrna is it in Georgia?
Chancellor Jackson:Smyrna. Yeah.
The Stoic Pirate:Smyrna.
Chancellor Jackson:Smyrna. Yeah.
The Stoic Pirate:Is I I I Google quick and to be honest, I love Georgia. I was I lived for like a year in in Columbus, Georgia. Smyrna is like is it? Like 50,000 people living there.
Chancellor Jackson:Yeah.
The Stoic Pirate:But a little bit north of of Atlanta. So it's like it's basically in the surroundings of Atlanta where you grew up.
Chancellor Jackson:Yeah. So it's literally like I'm talking ten, fifteen minutes to, you know I'm saying, cross the Atlanta city line. Like, yeah, we were literally, like, right there for sure. Yeah. We're right there.
Chancellor Jackson:We're not too far from Atlanta.
The Stoic Pirate:And and so how was your childhood like in Smyrna?
Chancellor Jackson:Childhood was great, honestly. The neighborhood I grew up in, it's been around since, like, the fifties, so it's a traditional neighborhood. A lot of families grew up there. It's a park in the center of the neighborhood. So there's a playground, you got basketball courts, tennis courts, it's a school.
Chancellor Jackson:We had clinics back in the day. It was literally like a whole community and a lot of kids. And we got a whole playground. You know saying? Basketball courts, everything.
Chancellor Jackson:So, yeah, childhood was man, what? Childhood was fun. Yeah. I mean, it couldn't I couldn't ask for a better childhood. You know what saying?
Chancellor Jackson:We we had it was it was lovely, definitely.
The Stoic Pirate:Yeah. And you've played a lot of sports? You were you played football mainly, I think?
Chancellor Jackson:Well, yeah, football mainly, but we didn't start actually playing, like, football football until middle school. So I was in eighth grade when I started playing. So I was a late I had a late start because everybody else been playing since they was four and five years old. So I had a bit of catching up to do, get up to speed. I mean, just learn the knowledge of the game entirely, though.
Chancellor Jackson:Because all I knew before was hey. Catch, run. That's all I knew. So yeah.
The Stoic Pirate:But you still were you were quite successful. I think you still you played also in college, and I think now you're a coach. Right?
Chancellor Jackson:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah.
Chancellor Jackson:It's crazy. I got to I earned the opportunity to to play at the college level down at Stetson University down here in Florida. I run so, yeah, I played all four years at Stetson, and now I coach high school football currently.
The Stoic Pirate:Yeah. What did you learn what what how did football and sports in general, how did that influence your the way you are nowadays?
Chancellor Jackson:Well, I just football has a lot of similarities to life. Honestly, you can work in just any sport you play. You it's a lot of lessons that you will learn playing whatever sport it is that you can apply to you apply to life in some form or fashion. Football for me is just helped me develop a work ethic, learning discipline, being able to be coachable, being a team player, leading, and I hold myself accountable as well as those around me accountable. Yeah.
Chancellor Jackson:There's been a lot of attributes that I've acquired from playing the sport that I applied to life today.
The Stoic Pirate:Yeah. And when we talk about life lessons, one of the biggest life lessons you had, you learned was in China. So before we go into that, you decided after college to go to China. So tell me about it. How how comes what what was the idea?
The Stoic Pirate:Why why did you wanna go to China as a how old
Chancellor Jackson:were Ironically, after my last game of my career came to an end, I immediately started applying for jobs and I was applying for corporate positions mainly. And I went through eight months of applying for jobs, landing interviews, getting flown out for some interviews, driving to some interviews, getting put up in a hotel, the whole nine, but I kept getting told no time and time again. I was like, okay, I gotta reapproach this job search thing because I've been at this for months, I haven't had any success yet. Corporate might not be for you. Clearly, let's try something else.
Chancellor Jackson:Let's look at something else. What are you good at doing? Talking to people, working with people. You're a people's person. So let's try to look for opportunities that are geared towards that.
Chancellor Jackson:So one day just job searching, I saw a tab that I never noticed before and it said international. I was like, man, why haven't I thought to look outside of The US for opportunities? The world is huge, I'm limiting myself. Let's see what's going on in the world. And that's when I say, Oh, teach English to kids in China.
Chancellor Jackson:I'm like, Okay. Applied, looked through interview process, and they was like, We wanna move forward with you as a candidate. So after eight months of applying for jobs and being told no, the first job would tell me yes on the other side of the world. Hey, this ain't no ifs, ands, and buts about it. This is exactly what we're do.
The Stoic Pirate:So you you went to China, but you you didn't know the language. No? You didn't
Chancellor Jackson:know Chinese. Upon myself to learn a little bit of the language because I had, like, a three month process after I accepted the position. Because it it takes a visa. Your work visa in China is a three month long process. So within that time, was like, I'm gonna start learning a little bit of the language, started getting my certification and teaching English as a foreign language.
Chancellor Jackson:So I knew a little bit. I didn't know I couldn't have a full in-depth conversation with you, but I knew just enough to get around, you know what saying, and work my way for sure.
The Stoic Pirate:Okay. So you went to China as an English teacher?
Chancellor Jackson:Correct. Teaching English as a foreign language.
The Stoic Pirate:As a foreign language. At a school for kids or for adults?
Chancellor Jackson:I'm not I mean, I was working with kids. So I was working with kids, you know, that's three years old all the way up to, like, 12, but I was mainly working with the elementary school age range, kindergarten, fifth grade.
The Stoic Pirate:Okay. So when you arrived in China, like, after this three months process, you arrived in China. I mean, you had some expectations. So what was the first were there any surprises? Were there something that you said, like, wow.
The Stoic Pirate:That I didn't expect that way. How how was it, like, that first time you stepped?
Chancellor Jackson:The first day was pretty lit. We landed. That's when I met it was I met other dudes. So I came in with like a recruiting class almost. So I wasn't the only one that was brought on the time I came in, it was like 28 of us, but I met a few of them in the airport as we was going through customs.
Chancellor Jackson:And then of course we realized we was all with the same company. So we were just talking and we went to the hotel. They put us up in the hotel for two weeks while we went through our training process and we had to find our apartment at the same time. So it was a busy two weeks, but honestly, I was just living in the moment. I was just living in the moment.
Chancellor Jackson:That honestly dawned on me that I was in China until day five. That's because me and one of my recruit mates was just hanging out, we was drinking, and she had left and then I was just sitting back and everything just hit me. It was really just way down. I'm really on the other side of the world. Like, I'm looking at my map location.
Chancellor Jackson:I'm like, bro, I am far from everything. Like, this is real. This is legit. I'm actually out here. But it's like, hey.
Chancellor Jackson:I'm I'm excited, though. You know I'm saying? It was overall, the entire experience was it was pleasurable. It was the best experience I've ever had in my entire life.
The Stoic Pirate:So no cultural shock?
Chancellor Jackson:I mean, just the way they there's just certain things that they do that are different. Like, one that sticks out the most is hygiene is different. You know what I'm saying? They don't really wash their hands like that. You know what I'm saying?
Chancellor Jackson:They don't really brush their teeth like that. A lot of them don't use toilet paper for real because you can't even really flush the toilet paper. Gotta use toilet paper and throw it away in the trash. It's stuff like that that's different, but it's still life though. People get up, go to work, You know what I'm saying?
Chancellor Jackson:Go to school. Do whatever. You know what saying? It's it's still life as we live here. It's just the people are different.
Chancellor Jackson:And, you know I'm saying? It's the life is different.
The Stoic Pirate:Yeah. But you still have to be an easygoing guy, quite an adapt or a guy who can adapt quite quickly. I mean, not everybody would
Chancellor Jackson:be so Like, they showed us the ropes for they showed us the ropes for, like, a day or two, but the train the the sub the metro system is pretty easy to learn. Like, I was surprised how easy it was to navigate. I picked that up very fast and that's the best way to get around. Beijing, China? Driving?
Chancellor Jackson:No. You can catch cabs and Ubers, but now that stuff adds up. And the train is fast, it's always the train moving. I'm talking about you probably might have to wait like thirty seconds. It's crazy, they're always gonna go, but they're not twenty four hours, that's the only thing.
Chancellor Jackson:Those twenty four hours, they'd be mobile. Stop at like 10:11PM depending on
The Stoic Pirate:the
Chancellor Jackson:station. So it was easy not to get around. And then you could also use Google Maps so you can still or Apple Maps so you can still navigate. So, yeah, get around on the issue.
The Stoic Pirate:Okay. So everything went quite well. You were excited and everything, but let's talk about the big story now because not everything went perfect. So tell me what happened. Tell me what happened.
The Stoic Pirate:That is something I don't think nobody would really like to experience that.
Chancellor Jackson:So it's 04/04/2019. That's a day off for me. I'm finna get ready to head to an event, meet some friends at, you know I'm saying, enjoy ourselves. So before I left the apartment, of course, showered, got dressed, I was pre gaming. So I'm just drinking a little Chinese wine cooler, smoking some cannabis, get done, make sure I got everything I need before I walk in the house, and I hear a knock at the door.
Chancellor Jackson:I looked at the people and there was still three officers from the Beijing police. You know what I'm saying? So I put everything up, you know I'm I opened the door, they come in, ask me questions about drugs. I'm just playing fool like I don't know what they're talking about. And then they drug test me right there on the spot.
Chancellor Jackson:So yeah, it was over with after that. I was like, okay. So do the drug test, fail the drug test, of course. Now the cuffs are on me. All forms of communication cease to exist at this point.
Chancellor Jackson:So I don't know what's gonna happen, where are we going, nothing, but I'm like, a figure it out and just sit and watch. So bounce around from precinct to precinct before I'm actually Eventually I'm taken to the jail where I'm housed and I'm locked up twenty four hours a day, seven days a week, fifteen minutes in one cell, nine wooden beds, three soups a day. And all I had was a plastic bowl and a plastic spoon. At this point, I don't know how long I'm gonna be in here. Don't know if you know what my specific charges are.
Chancellor Jackson:I ain't talk I ain't talk to nobody. Nobody ain't talk to me, for real. I'm in a cell with 14 other Chinese men, none of which I can communicate with. So it's like, yeah, that's not looking too good right around now. So, yeah.
Chancellor Jackson:So that's pretty much the basic synopsis of the story. And Yeah. Eventually, I am let go, and that's just on some one random day. Hey. I'm just gonna come on.
Chancellor Jackson:For real. But but so you straight to my apartment to pack up the rest of my things and then straight straight to the airport where I was deported from the country.
The Stoic Pirate:Okay. So but but, what went through your head when you were, like, in this cell with, like, what you said 14 other guys and, like, 10 beds, and and you don't know how long you stay there and what's going on. What what went through your mind during during that moment?
Chancellor Jackson:So, they always bring inmates in during the night, like throughout the night. So, yeah, I don't know. That's just their protocol. That's just what they do. I don't know why.
Chancellor Jackson:So by the time I actually got to the cell, it was like 4AM in the morning. So of course, the M10, they just sleep. So you can only imagine, it's funny, I'll describe it in the book, the CO opens the door and all I just see is just a huddle of bodies sleeping together. It reminded me of back in the day when we was kids, we had little sleepovers and stuff, but everybody just snuggled up together. That's what it looked like, but these are grown men.
Chancellor Jackson:So I'm like, what is going on? But strangely enough to that, right across from the bunks, up against their neck against the wall, up straight are two inmates watching them sleep. So I'm looking at them because they're the only people awake. So I'm looking at them, they looking at me because the last thing they expect to see come walking through the door is this black dude with dreadlocks. So they just looking at me crazy and I'm looking at them crazy like, Why y'all watching these folks sleep?
Chancellor Jackson:What y'all got going on in here? I'm just like, Okay. I'm just standing in the room. The bathroom is to the left, and it's its own separate room, but all the walls are made of glass, so everybody and yourself can see inside the bathroom. And it's just a sink, a squat toilet, a hole in the ground pretty much, and a showerhead in them with the water hose with a showerhead duct taped to it.
Chancellor Jackson:So I'm doing that. I take a few more steps in, I just approached it where the bunk start and I'm just trying to find a spot to lay down. And one of the dudes that's standing against the wall, wake two people up, tell them to move, and they made room for me. So I'm like, I bet. So how'd you lay down?
Chancellor Jackson:I just got my hands on my chest like this, laying on my back, just standing bright light on the ceiling. I was like, Man, this is real. This is shitty. I'm like, This is real. I'm really in here.
Chancellor Jackson:And I don't know how long I'm gonna be here. I don't know what's going on, whatsoever. And I'm like, y'all know I'm pretty sure that nobody know I'm here. So I'm like, man, this is crazy. But thankful, I'm oh, go ahead.
The Stoic Pirate:Yeah. So so so what was the worst thing that happened in these days you were this 14 you were ending up in this prison? Like, was there something really bad? You were like, oh my god.
Chancellor Jackson:Just you're you just say you've arrested and confined in a room that you don't leave, and you don't know how long you're gonna be there. That's just like, every day is nerve wracking because it's like, day goes by, day goes by, day goes by. And it's like, you ain't learned, you don't know what, how this thing, you don't know what's going on. So it was like, man, just that anxiety. When it will okay.
Chancellor Jackson:When it's going when does my time come? And then it is like, man, I usually have to sit back and wait. The ultimate test of patience.
The Stoic Pirate:Did did that I mean, I think it did that change yours? I mean, it helped you also develop a mindset, a new mindset. I think you see
Chancellor Jackson:the Correct.
The Stoic Pirate:It it it was also an experience of enlightenment in some way or no?
Chancellor Jackson:Yeah. For sure. Without a doubt. Without a doubt. So think about it like this.
Chancellor Jackson:Everybody has a lot of things that they have going on in their lives to the point where you don't really get enough time to just sit back and reflect. You might have time to reflect at some point of the day, and you might only reflect for what? A few minutes. You know I'm saying? Depending on how much time you got or you're devoting to it.
Chancellor Jackson:So imagine having sort of So for the first three days, I was the only foreigner, only English speaker in the cell. So imagine you having a full seventy two hours where you were in one room and you did not leave this room. And all you have to do is just sit there and just think and reflect. Three straight days, man, that amount of solitude, for sure. That'll change anybody.
Chancellor Jackson:That'll change anybody depending on the type of mindset you have. You know saying? Me, I always look at the brighter side of everything and try to gather an understanding of what has taken place and what can we do to move forward. Know what I'm saying? So, yeah, so after the On day four, that's when I moved to Newsel and I'm amongst other English speakers, just two of them.
Chancellor Jackson:So now it's just a whole Now it shifted the vibe because now it's okay, now can communicate with somebody one and I'm happy, but it's like, okay, through them I can learn. I'm learning how the jail operates, what's the process to the system. I learned that they've been They know everything. Everybody has been explained, has been given their information to the fullest detail. They know how everything works.
Chancellor Jackson:Me on that, nothing was said to me. So it's like, I'm still learning how this place operates, but I don't know how long I'm gonna be here still. So it's still nerve wracking even then. So, yeah, it's trial of the mind that says the resolve of the soul. That's all it is.
The Stoic Pirate:So seventy two hours, you were basic like, this first seventy two hours, you said it's like, you know, this solitude, you're you're basically staring at the ceiling. And and today, if if if you think about it, today, we cannot be like, we we we we're we're incapable of being bored. I mean we as human beings we have our we always have our phones. We have we cannot be one second without being entertained. If we say if we wait for somebody we take our phone we scroll on Instagram or whatever.
The Stoic Pirate:So I mean how how I mean, back it was 02/2019. Maybe we were we were not that addicted yet maybe than than we're not really now. I mean, six years later, but still. So what what would you tell people nowadays? Like, is it good to have sometimes this solitude?
The Stoic Pirate:Is it good to be, like, once in a while bored or, like, just by yourself, focused on yourself?
Chancellor Jackson:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everything must come to balance. Everything you do.
Chancellor Jackson:So just as much distractions you have in your life, yeah, you definitely need your me time, and you should devote more than just thirty minutes or an hour. Take a whole day, you know what saying, just for you. Just seven days out the week, you can't take one day for you? Like, come on now. You'll say where the balance at?
Chancellor Jackson:You gotta balance yourself out. That's why I feel like people being just out of whack. You know what I'm saying? There's no balance. It's just work, work, work, life, work, work, life, work, you know I'm saying?
The Stoic Pirate:Yeah. And so so do you do that now more conscious, like, since then? Are you taking yourself, like, for yourself some you times or meet some me time? Like, you take do you do that? And how do you do it, like, concretely?
Chancellor Jackson:Road trips. Solo.
The Stoic Pirate:Okay. Okay.
Chancellor Jackson:And solo road trips. And I got a EV, so the road trips are different than the EV. Because, see, I got it ain't like I'm, oh, I'm finna stop at this gas station, pump this gas, use the restroom, gas for snacks, I'm back on the road five minutes later. Nah. You gotta sit there and charge the car, so that takes twenty minutes, thirty minutes.
Chancellor Jackson:Yeah, you gotta do that at least, Max. You gonna have to do that at least twice. So I was like, yeah, that it's it's a lot. I'll on that road for a long time, so I use that to just be with myself. I I ride in silence a lot.
Chancellor Jackson:Like, I drive in silence a lot just to reflect. Or if anything, I might play music depending on if I'm in the mood for music. If not, then I have a podcast on or audiobook plan just to stimulate my mind and feed me as I'm just just driving. You know what I'm saying? So balance it out.
The Stoic Pirate:You also said that when you moved after and after this four three days you moved and then you had the English speaking peep some other another dude there,
Chancellor Jackson:but Yeah.
The Stoic Pirate:You start you said also you you always try to see the bright side or the positive side. You start to learn something. This is very much like a stoic philosophy of Amor Fatih where you embrace your faith, you know, like where you where you not only accept what happens to you, you try to bring the to to take the best out of it. Is that also something you learned during this experience, or were you already like that, or did it reinforce you to see
Chancellor Jackson:a world like this? It just reinforced because I've been in such well, I've just faced adversity when it came to football, trying to earn a starting position on varsity. That was a process, but I I made it happen. Trying to find a school to play college ball at, that was a process. I made that happen.
Chancellor Jackson:Trying to find a job after college, that was a process, but I made that happen. You know what I'm saying? So it's just reinforcement. It's like the show. We've been down before.
Chancellor Jackson:Not we've been down this low, but we've been down before, but hey, man. So
The Stoic Pirate:were there other lessons you learned like in in prison, like you for this fourteen days, in this fourteen days that changed you?
Chancellor Jackson:It definitely yeah. For sure. It was a huge impact. Huge impact. But I knew the I knew the the whole experience of China, because I was supposed to do a year.
Chancellor Jackson:That's how long my contract was. I was like, man, after a year in China, bro, ain't no telling what life is gonna be like for me. Like, know it's gonna be impactful. I know it is. So I knew it was gonna be impactful.
Chancellor Jackson:I didn't know it was gonna play out the way that it did, but you know what saying? It was still it still did what it it needed to do, and it just sparked a whole different fire to That's basically what I was like. I'm hey. I'm from Atlanta, bro. I'm gonna move how I wanna move.
Chancellor Jackson:I'm gonna show y'all how to do it. I was just doing was doing what moving like an American. That's that's look at what America come over here, keep my feet up, and do what I wanna do. You know I'm saying? Just doing some American stuff.
Chancellor Jackson:That's all I would. Foolish. Foolish. For sure.
The Stoic Pirate:And how how did you get the cannabis? Is it easy in China to get?
Chancellor Jackson:Or See, that's what I I wouldn't even my mind wasn't nowhere near focused on that. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't even think it was gonna be feasible or even possible to even come across it just because I'm like, it's China. Like, they you can't even get on Google on your phone without using a VPN. So it's like, well, I I I wouldn't even I ain't think nothing nothing.
Chancellor Jackson:But lo and behold, it it was a lot it was accessible for sure.
The Stoic Pirate:It was accessible. So
Chancellor Jackson:Yeah. Yeah.
The Stoic Pirate:Okay. So you wrote a book after about your experience. It's called fourteen Days in Beijing. I think it was quite successful. I think.
Chancellor Jackson:Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. So,
The Stoic Pirate:you people can download it if ever. You go on Amazon or in on Kindle. You can download it.
Chancellor Jackson:Is that for free? Amazon. I got audiobook. Yeah. Of it.
Chancellor Jackson:Not the entire book, but I got, like, half of the book in Audible on YouTube, SoundCloud, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and Anchor.
The Stoic Pirate:Yeah. Yeah, I saw it on YouTube. You have it also like the first part, I think about half an hour of the book you have on YouTube. You can listen to it and people can could go and buy it on Amazon or something. How did the book help you?
The Stoic Pirate:Like, did was it like something like that you needed to do because it it was kinda like traumatizing, or was it just something, hey, that's a great story. I wanna go tell that story.
Chancellor Jackson:Yeah. I mean, I knew I wanted to do something with the story. I just ain't know what. You know I'm saying? And it wasn't until I was hanging with one of my good friends, DeMarco Reddins.
Chancellor Jackson:He's a he was a traditionally published author before we graduated high school in 2014. So he was the one for, Aba, you need to about writing a book about the experience? I was like, that's a good idea. I don't even know where to start, but that's a good idea. And he took it even further, took my phone, went to my notes section and left me a little outline.
Chancellor Jackson:And I just started filling in the outline. And when we were doing that, I caught a fluff of how I wanted to write the story. And I moved it to a Google doc then and to finish typing it up. And four months later, I was done writing it and then spent the next six months getting it polished up and ready for publishing.
The Stoic Pirate:So now we come basically to what you do in, as for a living because that's what you do now. You coach other people to write their books. So you had a mentor, as I understood just before, who told you, hey, come on, write the book. You did it, and it four months it took you four months. And now that's what you do.
The Stoic Pirate:You help people publish their books or write their books. It's true. There's so many people out there who say, oh, my dream would be to write a book, but they don't know how to start. They don't know where to start. So that's what you do as a job.
The Stoic Pirate:So describe me a little bit. What what exactly how does that look like? How do you help people?
Chancellor Jackson:Yeah. So essentially because once fourteen days had a success, I was getting people people's asking me about the writing and public process left and right, and it surprised me how many people actually had aspirations to do that. I'm like, this was just an idea that was given to me, and I just Man, stepped into the plate and I hit a home run on my first time. It was like, can't make this up. So it really wasn't as, I guess, fulfilling, I would say, just because it wasn't something that I desired to do.
Chancellor Jackson:It was just something that I did. But to see how many people actually desire to do it and thought it was just complex thing, was like, yeah, crazy. This is the idea that I was giving, and I just learned as I went. And it's a lot simpler than you think. So I've worked with countless people, countless people.
Chancellor Jackson:I've only had two actually start and finish and see all the way through and took my formula how to how I like to set my stuff up and publish it. Both of their books were number one. They let me know right then and there. Was like, okay, You done it for yourself, and not only yourself, you did it for two completely different people on top of that. One of them, first author Anthony McKinney, he's like in his thirties, and the other author is Tanisha Sadler.
Chancellor Jackson:At that time, she published her book. She was 15 years old, still in high school. Her husband went crazy. She was number one for nine straight days. Wow.
Chancellor Jackson:Yeah, her husband went crazy. So it was like, okay, but you know what you're doing. You got you a little formula. So it was like, yeah, we can gotta just continue to try to capitalize off as you got proof that the system works. You just gotta continue to just put it out there.
The Stoic Pirate:But so you said you said there's a you work with lots of people. They come to you and then you realize there's a lot of people who aspire to write a book. What is the biggest hurdle you think that makes that people face or that they're afraid of? Why they don't? Themselves.
The Stoic Pirate:Themselves.
Chancellor Jackson:Themselves.
The Stoic Pirate:They don't believe in it or?
Chancellor Jackson:Apply yourself to supply your wealth. The only limitations that we shall have are those that we place upon ourselves. People getting their own way. It's literally like I'm talking about the store. The story's written.
Chancellor Jackson:It's been wrote. We done editing everything. What are we doing? What's the holdup? We got past one of the difficult parts.
Chancellor Jackson:Setting it up, that's the funniest part right there. So I'm like, why this out right here? Why? You know what I'm saying? It is what it is.
Chancellor Jackson:People say they want to do it, but I can't want it more than you. I can't want it more than you. I'm right along with you the entire way. I'm right here with you. Stay the push.
Chancellor Jackson:Stay the light. Come on, bud. It's like, I can't force you to drink. So I was like, you know
The Stoic Pirate:So how how does your coaching process looks like? You said you you you're with them. You cannot do it for them. That's for sure. But you're with them.
The Stoic Pirate:But how does the
Chancellor Jackson:culture process stepping away because for the most part, unless they live in Georgia, then, of course, then we can at least in the Metro Atlanta area, then we can say we can but even then, schedules be different. So it's just like we're doing right here. Can pick up the FaceTime, Zoom, whatever, and we shared a document that we're writing, some of your book is on, so I'm literally, as I'm editing it or you're correcting the revisions or as you're writing it, I'm right behind you editing it. Or you're saying, I already edited this whole thing, now you gotta go back and make the revisions. You see if you like the revisions or whatever.
Chancellor Jackson:But I'll be on it. I'm on it. I'm right behind you. So it's like, this can happen as fast as you want it to happen. I say the only thing that gets out of your control when it comes to at least as far as what you this timeline wise is trying to get the cover together perfectly the way that you want it.
Chancellor Jackson:Because you might have the concept, you send it to the book cover designer, it's gonna be there's gonna be some discrepancies. You're gonna have to go back and forth with them just to get it exactly right. You know I'm saying? And that takes takes time. But aside from that, everything else, man, is on your own time.
Chancellor Jackson:So
The Stoic Pirate:you accompany them, you're behind them, you're literally as I mean you're the coach, you coach them, you may you so so I mean maybe it's an indiscreet question, but if somebody was listening now and say I would be interested working with chancellor, so how much what do they have to calculate? How much is it how much does your service approximately cost?
Chancellor Jackson:It just depends honestly like that's something we can just hash out and It really just depends on what you were looking for specifically. Because this is like, you want me to help you edit the book? Okay, that's one thing. You need me to, you know what I'm saying? You just have the concept down.
Chancellor Jackson:You don't even got nothing written down, but you got the concept for the book. Okay, so we really just gotta create the entire thing there. Okay, that's different. So it just really depends. But honestly, I'm flexible.
Chancellor Jackson:I work with everybody's budget. So it's just a discussion we have to have. And I ain't going to ask for nothing crazy. I don't do none of that. And you own most importantly, that's the thing about Corlette Publications LLC.
Chancellor Jackson:We are a company that produces self published authors. So it was like, you just go through us to guide you through the process, but once it's all said and done, own Yes, it's your book.
The Stoic Pirate:You
Chancellor Jackson:own everything, and we don't want nothing about no royalties, none of that. That's all you you know I'm saying? Yeah. You're just coming through us for the service to get to that point.
The Stoic Pirate:Okay. So so if somebody comes to you with the idea, let's say somebody comes to you, he has an idea in his head, he tells you his concept, Then you coach him to until the end where the book is published. Like, you help him publishing it also on, like, Amazon because, I mean, that's all like this. There's all these little things that are sometimes maybe scaring people when you go, like, oh, how do I have to do that to push it on
Chancellor Jackson:in role and
The Stoic Pirate:all that stuff? So you help them from a to set, basically?
Chancellor Jackson:All the way to the end. Like, setting it up on Amazon with you know what I'm saying? The keywords. I got a program to help find great keywords for your genre. The Kindle Create, make sure the manuscript is perfect for Amazon, and that's just Amazon.
Chancellor Jackson:It is so many other platforms out there that you can publish a book on, and there's one platform in particular that is just one stop shop. You just submit your manuscript and book cover through there, and it'll publish your book and distribute it to every major online bookstore there is. So it's like, it's so many different tools. It's crazy. Technology has changed the game as it's been doing since, you know what I'm saying, it got started.
Chancellor Jackson:This internet though has empowered everybody. Life can be whatever it is that you were pursuing. It can be as big as you wanna make it and go as far as you wanna take it.
The Stoic Pirate:Yeah. So if somebody, like, is listening right now and they say, I wanna contact chancellor Jackson, where shall he where shall the person go?
Chancellor Jackson:The best search engine we got, Google. Google chancellor K Jackson. Literally, everything you need will pop up from my social media accounts, website, books, other podcast interviews I've done, the whole nine. You name it. Great.
Chancellor Jackson:Literally, just Google me, you'll find me.
The Stoic Pirate:Okay. So now I will put your website and stuff in the in the description also of the of the podcast so people can shall contact you. They shall not be afraid. It's not gonna cost a fortune, and you're gonna help them from A to Z. Because so many people have that dream of publishing a book, and then they they don't do it because they're they're afraid of like little details.
Chancellor Jackson:I
The Stoic Pirate:think that's exactly what guys like you can come in and help people fulfill their dream of having their own book, I think. So speaking about books, today you had another book coming out from yourself. It's called The Power of The Seven Pillars of happiness or what?
Chancellor Jackson:Roads of empowerment.
The Stoic Pirate:Roads of empowerment. I downloaded it today. Just thought it was great. It's like that I have you today and today your book comes out. So tell me a little bit about your book about the power of becoming.
The Stoic Pirate:What inspired you to do it and what is the whole idea behind?
Chancellor Jackson:So based on the content that I post on my social media accounts, I always post quotes and then my captions just expand on the quote. So I was like, okay, I will eventually wanna do something with all of these quotes. I just didn't know what I wanted to do, how I wanted to go about it at first. And then one day, well, many months later, it came to me one day when I was trying to take a I was laying down, eyes closed, not even asleep yet, but was trying to just go to sleep and it just, boom, it just clicked. Was like, oh.
Chancellor Jackson:For sure, I got up right then and there. Okay, boom, this is how we're going to do it. And then as I got it on paper more, I figured out how I wanted to just set it up. But pretty much it's a self help book, but not just your typical motivational read. And it's a personal roadmap to wholeness centered around seven core things, love, discernment, happiness, success, adversity, healing, and confidence.
Chancellor Jackson:And through these pages of different quotes and insights, you'll learn how to break free from limiting beliefs, nurture healthier relationships, build an unshakable sense of self worth, re evolutionize your happiness, amplify your confidence, and it'll help you guide you through adversity as well. So I'm excited to see how it does. Well, it's already charting right now. So right now, we hit two top new seller in two different genres so far. So, yeah, just continue to keep your foot on the gas.
Chancellor Jackson:So
The Stoic Pirate:That's cool.
Chancellor Jackson:Go get your copies for sure. Only 99¢ ebooks. 99¢ ebooks.
The Stoic Pirate:And That's the thing. I saw it's 99¢. So really go on your ebooks, like, on your Kindle or something. Download it. It's 99¢.
The Stoic Pirate:It's really not much, and it has some great advice. And as you said, some the seven pillars. You call it the seven books within the books, and you mentioned them before. Which one was the or is there do they have, like, a is one more important than the other, or are they all the same importance? Or
Chancellor Jackson:I just they all balance each other out because you like, you wanna deal you wanna experience love for you along your journey. You're be faced with decisions. You're have to make a lot of different decisions along your journey. Your discernment is pivotal for, you know what saying, the longevity. You're to have success.
Chancellor Jackson:You're going to face adversity. You're going to have to heal. And through all of that, you know what saying, you build confidence. So they all are It's like the chakras, you need all of them. But I say the book of discernment is the longest, I would say that, just because that's the most you're gonna experience that one the most.
Chancellor Jackson:Everything in life you do is based on a decision. So making the best decisions is key.
The Stoic Pirate:So you were talking about healing. There are so many people, I have the feeling nowadays, they suffer from anxiety, or they suffer from lack of self confidence, and all that stuff. What would be like that one, thing you would tell people like to do to yeah. To heal if they need to heal. Like that one thing if you have one thing you could give them.
Chancellor Jackson:Well, once you get tired of your own BS, once you get tired of your own BS, that's when real change will occur. Once you get fed up with yourself, that's when change will occur. So whenever that point comes, you know what I'm saying? You'll you'll make the changes you wanna see, and it's just nurturing yourself. All the energy you put towards everybody else or things that don't benefit you, shift towards yourself, put all the energy towards you.
Chancellor Jackson:And it's going to be a process. I'm not saying it's going be easy, for sure. Everything's a process. But small steps, small steps, nurture yourself, eat better, exercise, you can say it's little things. Feed your brain.
Chancellor Jackson:Y'all feed, folks feed their brain with all this BS on social media. You send their thumbing through Instagram and TikTok worrying about whatever celebrity is sleeping with other celebrity, that ain't feeding you or benefits you whatsoever. Them folks not even worried about you. Feed your mind something, some substance. Travel.
Chancellor Jackson:Travel for sure. Solitude, spending time alone. Yeah. It's just little things. Little little things.
Chancellor Jackson:Write things out. Goals. Affirmations. You know I'm saying? So it's little things.
The Stoic Pirate:So for who who is the book? Like, what is your target audience you would say? I mean I mean, it's for everyone. I know I I looked into it. I mean, I didn't read it yet, but it's like I think it's for everyone.
The Stoic Pirate:But is there somebody you had in mind when you were writing the book?
Chancellor Jackson:Mainly for those that know me in a sense and know how my spirit is, but don't have access to me all the time. You know I'm saying? And the more I continue to market myself and the world gets to know me, you'll get that vibe. Know what saying? It'll develop to that as well.
Chancellor Jackson:So it's like this book is a piece of me when I'm not there. And with it being a self help, so I'm really aiming to a whole different, I'm carrying over, you know I'm saying? The genre that I already done swept with the dramas and the romances and all of that. Now, okay, I'm taking them over, let's go over here. You know I'm saying?
Chancellor Jackson:We've got entertained, let's get some substance now. So just crossing over those two genres and just picking up on the new ones in the self help world, That's a whole another lane. You'll get to assessing my vibe and my spirit most importantly, just through my works. The new ones that have come, they'll read they're like, hey, man. Who is this dude?
Chancellor Jackson:Let me see. Oh, he done went through this. Oh, okay, man. So it's just it's just like, okay. That's crazy.
Chancellor Jackson:I would've never guessed. Man, that's, man, that's a full circle moment right there. So yeah. That's how it is, man.
The Stoic Pirate:So so what what would you say would you like to spark in the people who read the book? What is the what what would you like that they change in their life or the spark you wanna gift them with?
Chancellor Jackson:To take what you need to take away and apply it to your life the way that you see fit. I believe there's no right or wrong way of living life because the world is so big and every sector of this globe that you may touch or experience or see is going to be drastically different everywhere you go. Life's lived drastically different across the globe. And with all these different lifestyles, these different cultures, different ethnicities, I don't see how anybody could say, yes, this is how you're supposed to live life. You're not supposed to do this.
Chancellor Jackson:How can you say that? Man, we can go someplace across the globe and then what we talking about, that's not even a thought. Like, what are we like? So it's no right or wrong way to live life. You live your life where you see fit.
Chancellor Jackson:And there's tools and there's resources out there to help guide you through your maze. So it's a bit ultimately, it's up to up and up to you and how willing how much willingness you got to seek out the information and make the changes you need to make.
The Stoic Pirate:So it's basically a call to openness and having an open mind, being curious and yeah be open for other cultures, for other people, for other way of lives and be also a little bit self critical and don't think like I'm just only the my way is the right way. It's just like being open minded, looking at other people also how they live and and see that see everything in a also in a kind of like positive way and try to do best with what we have. Is that kinda like what do you wanna what what do you think?
Chancellor Jackson:It's powerful, bro. It's beautiful, honestly, bro. It's it's a beautiful thing. Yeah. I believe it's gonna be it's gonna be everything that people need to hear whenever it is their time to receive it.
Chancellor Jackson:It's all it's all alignment, honestly. I feel like it's all alignment. It's all divine timing. And today is also another honorable day because this time last year, I lost my mom. So that's the way that's one one of the main reasons why I picked the eleventh, just to honor her and to one thing came to end, but when things come to end, new things begin.
Chancellor Jackson:So you know what I'm saying? So that's Yes. Yeah. It's a it's a powerful, powerful day, and it's you know I'm saying? A great spiritual day for me.
Chancellor Jackson:So I'm just trying to do I'm just sharing it with the world.
The Stoic Pirate:That's a beautiful thought. If something comes to end, when something comes to end, something new is gonna start.
Chancellor Jackson:I
The Stoic Pirate:think that's that's very nice. That's very nice. What's what's the next thing like you now we can say you said it just like you know something comes to an end, basically ended all that book that came out now, now it's on its own, it's going to be sold. What's next for you? What what are your ideas?
Chancellor Jackson:Man, this would be the ugly part for me, especially I just because it's like, I'm not well, this is my first book that I actually, like, just created. So this is this is a first for me. So I'm pretty sure if I did it once, I'd do it again. But the other books, I'm just telling stories. So as of right now, I was like, man, I honestly don't know.
Chancellor Jackson:I don't know what my next book will be or when I'll get the inspiration to write it. But with the book already been out and it's already having success, the next thing really is the most important aspect of publishing books is self publishing at that point marketing. If you write a book, you publish it. If you just wanted to do it just to say you did it and you don't care what type of response you receive, okay, for sure. Hey, that's fine.
Chancellor Jackson:Me on the other hand, I like to see results. So it's like, okay, it's already getting results, but now we gotta amplify it even more. What? This is day one. So it's like, yeah, it's pedal to the metal with that.
Chancellor Jackson:But I say the end end goal, my end end goal, fourteen Days of Beijing, that's still going to be my bread. It will always be my bread and butter. Even when I hit up people for the interviews, they don't really be too enthusiastic about the private company. When they're fourteen days in Beijing, they eat it up. So and it's it just it just registers with the people in the audience.
Chancellor Jackson:So I would love to turn that into like a film or TV show series or animation with something like I would love to create that into some type of motion picture. That's the end end goal.
The Stoic Pirate:Yeah. That's and that's the thing. It's the power of a good story, and the fourteen days in in Beijing is a great story. And I think what I like also just the idea, know, sometimes stuff happens to us that in the moment we think like, oh my god, this is freaking bad. At the end, it's a great story to tell.
The Stoic Pirate:And you know, if you think about it, how boring would be a life if you never had a story to tell? And it's, you're not going to tell the story about what happened at work in the office. There's nothing gonna happen, but it's these surprises, these these things that shake us up that that are the real stories. And I think that's what, sometimes, like, even if something is, yeah, bullshit that happens to us at the end, we can turn it into a good story that we can tell. Absolutely.
The Stoic Pirate:And and you had this great great story, which which is almost an opportunity, you know, like, you think about like now that it's fourteen days in jail, it's a chance. Yitz may rewrote a book. You maybe you're gonna make a movie about it. What and so on. So at the end, it was a blessing.
The Stoic Pirate:What happened to you? And I think that's what we should see also in general in life. Everything that happens to us is in some way it is a blessing if we make something out of it.
Chancellor Jackson:Correct. Correct.
The Stoic Pirate:That's the thing. So thank you very much Chancellor for being on my show. Is there anything you would like to say? Something that we didn't touch that you would mention to my listeners? Yeah.
Chancellor Jackson:I just wanna leave y'all with a quote before we close out. I'm big on quotes, but by Nipsey Hussle. And the quote is long winded, running through this life like it was mine. Never settling, but setting every goal high. 1,000 burpees on the path to my own self destruction or success.
Chancellor Jackson:But what is a mistake without the lesson? You see, the best teacher in life is your own experience, and none of us know who we are until we fail. They say every person is defined by their reaction to any given situation. Well, who would you want to define you? Someone else or yourself?
Chancellor Jackson:Whatever you choose to do, homie, just give your heart to it and stay strong.
The Stoic Pirate:Amen. Hey. That's very strong, brother. That was great. Thank you very much for being on my show.
The Stoic Pirate:You for sharing your
Chancellor Jackson:story. Thank
The Stoic Pirate:you very much and yeah maybe we can if ever you come out with a next book or something or you have another story.
Chancellor Jackson:Oh yeah
The Stoic Pirate:for sure.
Chancellor Jackson:Round two.
The Stoic Pirate:Thank you. Hey, take care and have a good time. God bless and all the best.
Chancellor Jackson:Appreciate you.
The Stoic Pirate:Appreciate. Bye. So wait quick. So is it was it okay for you? Everything good for you?
Chancellor Jackson:Was it good? Yeah. Yeah. Everything was great. Great questions.
Chancellor Jackson:Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
The Stoic Pirate:Good. Good. So I think it's gonna be published Sunday in a week. Like yourself. In, like, eight days.
The Stoic Pirate:I I will write you, of course, some hot match when it comes out.
Chancellor Jackson:Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just follow me follow me on Instagram, and then I'll definitely follow you back. And then if you drop it, then tag me in, and I'll repost it and everything.
The Stoic Pirate:Perfect. Perfect. And I have one last question just as that's not a personal question. I published three books. I wrote three books and and there's one book that I would like to publish in English and I would translate it and everything.
The Stoic Pirate:And could I go to you with for that? Like like, I would give you the script. I have the script. It's out in German. It's it's successful.
The Stoic Pirate:And but I would like to bring it on the on the in in English, like, on
Chancellor Jackson:Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We yeah.
Chancellor Jackson:We can set up some time to talk and hash everything out.
The Stoic Pirate:Okay. Yeah. So I'll I'll
Chancellor Jackson:That sound like a great yeah. I love to be yeah. Man, I'm open to all opportunities, bro. Okay. Like, if you're willing, I'm willing.
Chancellor Jackson:You know I'm saying? I'm all good too. So I was like, yeah.
The Stoic Pirate:That's great. Okay. So I will contact you and we can talk about that once.
Chancellor Jackson:Yeah. For sure. Most definitely. Most definitely. Okay.
The Stoic Pirate:Hey. Thanks a lot. Take care.
Chancellor Jackson:I appreciate you, fam. I know it's late now. I know you're trying to get to bed. Everything, boy.
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